tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15133926.post113351890001344676..comments2023-10-10T06:51:06.526-04:00Comments on Ryan's Take: More on Catholicism and Gay marriageRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04523572927796479670noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15133926.post-1133894632507322932005-12-06T13:43:00.000-05:002005-12-06T13:43:00.000-05:00Sorry, that didn't work, let me try that again:Jam...Sorry, that didn't work, let me try that again:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/12/05/the_basilica_of_denial/" REL="nofollow">James Carrol</A>Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04523572927796479670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15133926.post-1133894495689354942005-12-06T13:41:00.000-05:002005-12-06T13:41:00.000-05:00Hey Joe, Here's another good op-ed from a former p...Hey Joe, <BR/><BR/>Here's another good op-ed from a former priest who was a fairly high ranking one at that. <BR/><BR/>http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/12/05/the_basilica_of_denial/Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04523572927796479670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15133926.post-1133849573727646062005-12-06T01:12:00.000-05:002005-12-06T01:12:00.000-05:00I'm not sure how I would have handled the situatio...I'm not sure how I would have handled the situation if I was O'Malley. At the same time he supports gay marriage and abortion, he has admittedly done a lot of good for the city. Perhaps not going was his form of compromise, ok, I don't appreciate the stance you take, but I honor your contributions enough to let you have your night. That's just my speculations, though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15133926.post-1133684940032875752005-12-04T03:29:00.000-05:002005-12-04T03:29:00.000-05:00The usage of words is pretty specific Joe, yes the...The usage of words is pretty specific Joe, yes there could still be some wiggle room left, but not much. Furthermore, it also leaves open the possibility of removing priests who have been celibate and are shining examples for others to emulate. <BR/><BR/>The fact is that this is a policy that is vastly different than that of about 30 years ago and it can easily be viewed as - and probably is - a reaction to the sexual abuse scandal. However, it is an entirely innapropriate way of going about keeping children in the church safe. Furthermore, it alienates a lot of priests in the church who are gay, celibate and have kept all their vows from seminary.<BR/><BR/>As for Mayor Menino, if O'Malley felt that strongly about it - and he has every right to - he should have insisted Menino not be the guest of honor, Catholic Charities is a part of the Boston Archdiocese and O'Malley runs it; he could have made a call. I would have had no problem with that, especially based on the abortion issue (which, in all honestly, I think is a valid stance for any Catholic to take - one I disagree with, but deeply respect). <BR/><BR/>Instead, he didn't go to the event and hurt more people by not doing so.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04523572927796479670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15133926.post-1133627337671664662005-12-03T11:28:00.000-05:002005-12-03T11:28:00.000-05:00I'm gonna let my normal satirical self take a bac...I'm gonna let my normal satirical self take a back seat and be completly serious here.<BR/><BR/>First of all, it does not out and out ban gays; they are allowed in if they have overcome said homosexual tendancies for a period of 3 years prior to becoming a deacon. It's not so much a ban as a restriction.<BR/><BR/>Also: heterosexual priests have the same responsibility to remain celibate that a homosexual priest would. <BR/><BR/>The Catholic Church is not a democracy, it is a theocracy, and is bound by rules that were established over the last two thousand years, and the rules against homosexuality aren't new, they are among the oldest. <BR/><BR/>And to put something into perspective: Sean O'Malley, like many other Catholics, view abortion as murder. All argument aside, it is seen as murder. Perhaps that would better explain his absence from the event where Tom Menino is guest of honor. To you it is him being a bigot, but to him and many others, it is refusing to honor one who is perceived as supporting murder and behavior that is seen as an affront to God. <BR/><BR/>And never group together Sean O'Malley and Bernard Law, it is being stereotypical and making unfair generalizations. <--okay that was somewhat satirical.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com